Friday, December 22, 2006

Rain Fall

Contributed by: Sadaf Shaikh on 4th Aug 2003 at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/thepointofview


This poem I dedicated to the neem tree in front of my house which made me write it.

Rain Fall

Pouring rain. Rings of water spread over reality's surface.
A Neem tree protrudes like a bright globe of stubborn light.--
Green bloom static in a hearth of evolving summer downpour.

The sky flows like crude paper pulp. A documentary evidence
of the humidity collected in the Neem flowers' petals.--
Like a static surge the rain streaks an indistinct image of life.

The throb of rain upon hard surface surmounts the house shapes.
Their windows beckon all light like black holes of a lost reality.--
Everything reduced and disassembled inside this soaked sphere.

Thursday, December 21, 2006

Dreams

Contributed by: Mishal Saeed on 25th Aug 2003 at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/thepointofview

"I have a dream"...a thought provoking statement...like...the subject clicked the most....I just got thinking and it reminded me of a discussion I had with my friends in my early college life..:)

A friend used to ask this...what actually a dream is? or what exactly it is...?, I mean when one says I have a dream..or it will be a dream come true...what does it mean really?

Anything which we desire? or like...anything which is a fantasy n far away from reality? or ...
the ambition of life....? We had a funky discussion I remember...

At that period of time it seems...dreams are all thatwe have....and truthfully....even today I am with the same opinion..:)

Going with the flow....coping up with the theories like survival of the fittest etc...,all materialism, bad expereinces, ... managing the rat race in life....sometimes I wonder ,what actually were the dreams that I had back then?....

We have to be logical about life also but it often creates a monotony...doesn't it?

So we should dream once in a while also...those dreams which we used to dream...and want to dream about but due to any logical reason or for the reason of being too practical we often ignored them...

And again a Dream is a phenonmenon of how one defines it...so people...lets talk of our dreams....

When I say "Take care of your dreams..." where does this line lead you?

Lets share the dreams...How exactly do u take them....to what extent do u believe in them...

Majid Amjad, the famous urdu poet wrote poetry and one of his work is my inspiration...entitled

Hum Khuwab Faroshon Say Koyee Khuwab Khareedey!
(translation: Somebody should buy Dreams from us Dream-Sellers)


Added on to by: Umar Pirzada on 26th Aug 2003 at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/thepointofview


Khwab wohi pooray karat hain jo unhen dekhat hain....hheheh... (LAGAAN if anyone remembers) meaning Dreams are achieved only by those who see/have them in the first place...no dream means no dream achievement...

Anyway....my dreams have always been a huge part of my life..because...i m a dreamer yes....but the true me the one I want to be is the one who works towards making them reality and with time I feel I am getting to be someone who thinks reality more, who tries to make his dreams close to real or am becoming someone who dreams more real hehehe.....

Dreams always let you move on to a bit away from real life...and its very important to dream... just because it makes you realize the uniqueness of life and monotony stays away....even when there is monotony, its just our perspective of not beinga ble to realize how every moment is different from the.....previous....The Creator is Great....

Friday, December 15, 2006

Worst Fear

Contributed by: Umar Pirzada on 31st Aug 2003 at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/thepointofview


The only way to get stronger than anyone is being stronger than yourself....If one has the strength to beat himself....one is more powerful and stronger than anyone else....in this world....

But how do we accomplish such a feat? The answer..."Face your Fears"....its not easy as those 3 words.....but that is it...The toughest job is identifying and in fact accepting that this is a fear than actually facing it and then eventually beating it....if one can recognize the fear then he has to....treat it like one and respect it....cos anything which can harm you needs attention and respect.....

What is that we fear most? God? Death? hmmm....lets talk about worldly things....

NUCLEAR WAR ?....hmmm lets leave it there...lets talk abt inner stuff ....

Your dad? Your family? Why would anyone fear that....? Hey no direct hits....just pointers....hints...

What is the HUMAN's WORST FEAR? I ll only give my own point of view maybe other people have different ones....

I think FAILURE is the worst fear anyone has....the fear of failure....is what kills me....makes me tremble...gives me sleepless nights....discourages me....makes me HATE everyone.....when I try to face it I cant....I hide...behind walls...behind other people...behind myself.....I cant face it.....it eats you from inside...the fear ofFAILURE.....

How do we overcome this....? The solution is FLYING heheh....yeah....FLYING off from this world...in thoughts.....in emotions...just take yourself away from this world....remove materialism....from yourself...away from this worldly goals....thats the solution....in fact thats the solution of most fears.....But thats a cowardly way? Right?

How about? Taking it on, believing in yourself...and still if it doesnt work just know you gave it your best shot and FAILURE is what is better...After all Allah only means everything for the better....its fate...lets live with it...

There are ways to overcome your worst fears and each one might have different ones according to their nature....but one needs to find the solution...and needs to think about them....cos no one this world can claim that he has no FEAR...


Further added to by Mishal Saeed on 1st Sept 2003 at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/thepointofview


Agreed to the statement that the only way to get stronger than anyone is being stronger than yourself....or to resist your own feelings....desires?

Whats that you fear most??? Failure? Meaning losing? Everyone has their point of view ...and for me failure in the "most dear" stuff....My dad used to say something... things dont always go like you want it...failure is a bitter feeling....but it becomes a fear only when one makes it....it is part of the game...and if we consider that then its quite logical...

If we dont lose then nobody would win? If somebody doesnt lose how will we ever win? Failure is also Allah's wish, when its in your fate then why fear? We know everything happens by Allah's will....

Failures have a lot of benefits....they make you learn how to live how to face the musicand again I can say so much more....and everyone's point of view is acceptable:)

Every one takes like and defines it by its own expereinces....so to me the worst fear? Well there are lots...loneliness...(when there is no one who can listen to u, who can mourn with u..who can laugh with u...who can justify u...who can explain for u...no shoulder...no background.....all alone)

Silence...(when there is no voice u can hear...no cheers...bus the quiet...so much similar to losing your soul...) Misunderstandings...(which leads to a bad reputation...when relatives dont matter....when a small thing can ruin every thing in life...all losing of tryst...no effort to justify u....listen to you...no chance granted !)

Life has its deprived moments and failures.... some sadness....and all of these cannot be placed in one category....deprivation is a blessing...You have not experienced something so no sadness related to that can come to you...Failure is another blessing...it helps you keep on trying...Sadness is a major thing...and it can be placed in the list of fear....can be...not surely..:)

Anything could be a fear...but again it shouldnt be...Umar is right when he says face your fear....:)


Further added to by Mahjabeen Umar on 1st Sept 2003 at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/thepointofview


My worst fear... hmmm...

Worst fear to me is the loss of loved ones... be it death, a misunderstanding or mere rifts I fear it all...Umar suggests one should face fears...thats the solution.... but I look into my grandmother's eyes, I study her wrinkled face and am just tempted to hug her hard... She's leaving for my aunt's house in another country and it would be months and months before she comes back... and im scared... what if, God forbidding, I dont get to see her again... she is old, fragile and sick, is even forgetting things now... what if...

And the thought makes me hug her all the more tighter... and she goes on and on with all her prayers... now how would one face this fear???

I get scared of anger... I get scared of misunderstandings, I hate it when people fight.. all of these I feel create differences and spoils relationships... You end up losing your loved ones this way...now how would one face this one...???


Further added to by Mishal Saeed on 1st Sept 2003 at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/thepointofview


Well anger, misunderstandings and like set your mind that things could be more wrong then this...if we are talking about 'Fear', then can it be so logical that one sets its mind and starts thinking that this didnt happen, and that could happen also?

Fear is a feeling to me...one feels like 'thinking' when scared? Its involuntary...it comes with instinct....anger, silence...misunderstandings, death and all these are all symbols...fears, ultimate objective is the same.......even if nothing like that happens....the fear remains...like when any thing wrong happens...it brings its solution always with it, but at that particular time...when everything is going wrong....fear arrests...its only natural...fear is not dependent on logic...

But when it comes to how to face fear....the question itself becomes logical...when a person becomes capable enough thats when he starts asking how to face this fear...that in itself is a proof that one is somewhat out of it....and thats when the thinking procedure starts...

Once you make up your mind to face fear...there are a thousand ways.....preparing to face fear is actually facing fear...thats the main thing...and thats when things start rolling...prayers...that things remain fine...we can only have hope....that things will get fine...

A new belief, a new desire which helps making things better...reach out to Allah to overcome the fear....to face fear....to me..."fear" is one phenomenon...and "to face fear" is another phenomenon...when some one is in "fear", it should be justified...without logic...and when one faces fear...then there are heaps of logical explanations that could come up...


Further added to by Sadaf Shaikh on 1st Sept 2003 at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/thepointofview


An interesting topic we have here on our hands. Before I go on to what I feel is my worst fear
I'd like to point out some incongruity in what UTP wrote about Failure beng his biggest and worst fear and his idea of overcoming it (i quote):

"the only solution is FLYING heheh....yeah....FLYING off from this
world...in thoughts.....in emotions...jusut take urself away from
this world....remove materialism....from urself...away from this
worldly goals....thats the solution....in fact thats the solution of most fears..... "

Objection: How and infact why should we "take ourselves away " from this world ?

When GOD created MAN and sent him down to inhabit this earth, Man was told that he could partake of all the bounties and blessings that he could find in the earth and the sky EXCEPT for those things only that have been explicitly forbidden by GOD's decree. Similarly, homosapeins were intended to be live at a much higher level of existence than all other beings on Earth (Ashraf-ul-Makhluqaat remember?), so naturally they were made in such a way that we have material needs and in order to fulfill those needs we have to create or obtain material goods.

So how can a man separate himself from worldly goals when he is lives in this very world??

The fact that those goals should be just and noble , no doubt but not not have any worldly goals whatsoever while we're living in this world is impossible when we take into account human nature. And who is to blame? If any one must be blamed at all? Not man surely since we're merely instruments of GOD's will and can't think or do anything without his consent.

Finally,even if by dint of some miracle we manage to separate ourselves from all our worldly goals an desires, even then we'll still have FEAR. Fear of the "Life hereafter" and Fear of what judgement will be passed upon our conduct while we were in this world. So even the most religious and Godly amongst us should not feel so SMUG about being guaranteed an entry to heaven , because we don't know what will eventually happen to us.

So there we are, "Fear of the Unknown". That is one fear that remains when we have mastered all fears.


Further added to by Umar Pirzada on 1st Sept 2003 at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/thepointofview


Righteousness....

Free your mind from worldly goals...I didn't say its easy....but that's the solution of being strong in this world....yes we set goals.....but lets not get into chasing them so crazily...that....we get lost and that's when these worldly fears actually affect us.....

People come and people go....we have come....we would go also...if we start fearing that people would leave us....and if we mourn on the people who do....yes it is sad but...it doesn't stop us....it shouldn't.....people move on also.....whether leaving is due to death or any other reason....yes we are dependent on one another but we aren't dependent to a level that we can't function without the other.....

Its just about setting a mind tone of not expecting people to be around forever....that makes you be happy when they do remain around forever.....that is a bonus in a way....

Scared of ghussa....scared of misunderstandings....THATS PART OF LIFE.....set your mind....to be free from such fears....and start thinking WORST CASE.....like it cant be worse than this right....and you go on...theres always something to look on to....its only if we close our minds that there isn't anything to look forward to...


Further added to by Raza Ali on 5th Sept 2003 at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/thepointofview


After the discussion about dreams the 'worst fear' topic should mean 'nightmare'. Generally we are afraid of things that affect our lives but what about those of which we can not control. May be we are not supposed to control everything and if we are not supposed to control everything, why should we supposed to be afraid of those things?

Fear is natural. I fear that time is limited and I might lose this time before I do what have to do. Can I change that? I don't know. Can you avoid failure? Failure is a very real fear and in almost all of us. People are not objective in their judgments, or may be they are too judgmental. If somebody fails in something people might label them as losers and sometimes even forgetting what they have done right. Those who loose often under the influence of this discouraging environment, loose confidence in what they are good at and become what people perceive of them or may be stereotype them. We loose and we fail all the time, but we become failures when our sense of confidence and our strengths come from outside and not from inside ourselves. Is your perception of yourself dependent on the opinion of others? Failure is nothing in itself. It is the expectation and the disappointments that follow which break the heart. Is disappointment or despair allowed? Can anybody keep on trying if they are disappointed because they could not measure up to their own or somebody else's expectation? And if somebody is not going to try again can they ever hope to succeed?

Even the fear of Allah is no fear. He never said that we should be afraid of Him that he is terrible and He holds the power to throw us into hell. If we are only to be thrown in hell, why create us in the first place? Allah asks people to remember that He is watching and He is listening and He knows what is in our heart. What we do in front of people or what we do in the darkness of night. We have to take responsibility for what we do. 'Flying off' sounds like 'run away' but I know you don't mean that. May be we can 'rise above' and see that our life is not dependent on and driven by what is material even if it seems 'necessary'.


Further added to by Sadaf Shaikh on 8th Sept 2003 at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/thepointofview


Raza has discussed 3 kinds of fears,

1. Fear of limited time or not having enough time to do all we have planned to do
2. Fear of Allah
3. Fear of failure

but what exactly is fear ?

I believe that fear is an emotion which is experienced by us in anticipation of some specific pain or danger and what are our usual response to fear ?

There can be only two logical responses 1) take control of your fears 2) Let your fears take control of you.

As Raza said that generally we are afraid of things that affect us but are beyond our control.
That is just one kind of fear; fear of the uncontrollable factors. Another kind of fear a lot of people face is fear of the unknown or inexplicable. What man doesn't know or doesn't understand he fears.Then there is also fear of retribution, such as that many religious figures have tried to invoke in the ordinary people concerning the wrath of GOD and the throwing in hell of all that displeased HIM. Another fear is that of losing something we cherish; it need not be a material or even tangible thing. Fear or displeasure and even fear of being afraid.

Yes, I have come across people who used to suffer from stage fright and knew that they would get cold feet when asked to make a speech or recite a poem. so what they did was started being afraid of their fear of performing in front of an audience.

So there you have a very unique kind of fear, "Fear of Fear".

I would however agree with Raza that the people who free themselves from outside influences as far as forming an opinion about themselves is concerned are more likely to be able to overcome their fears whether actual or imagined.

Tuesday, December 12, 2006

Can there be morality without religion?

Contributed by: Sadaf Shaikh on 23rd Sept 2003 at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/thepointofview


Often people consider religion and morality to be synonymous. That is, if a person is religious
(a follower of any civilized religion not only islam) then he will have morals. That in a way implies that those people who are Atheist for e.g have no morals?

By the same token, since a religion like islam places so much importance on morals and ethics, that should ideally mean that muslims should be the most moral and etchical people.

But if we look around us and observe OBJECTIVELY, we see that that is often not the case. I have personally come across some non-muslims and even some atheists who valued morality and ethics as a way of life more than the so-called upholders of morality.

Another thing that I would like to ask, which bothers me is the role religion plays in developing a moral sense in an individual. Because when I see people committing the most heinous acts in the name of upholding their religion or faith, I wonder what kind of morality are we talking about when the entity that is supposed to be the breeding ground of all morality breeds zealots capable of committing such acts??

Should we shun and disregard the moral efforts and works of people who don't believe in any religion, just because we happen to disagree??


Replied to by Umar Pirzada on 23rd Sept 2003 at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/thepointofview


I think Yes religion does give some moral aspects to ones nature. Its only because I think personally being unbiased to other religions...every religion does give a way of life...no religion tells someone to lie or cheat on his wife as being ok.....quite a lot of sins do stand recognized as common between most religions.

In fact staying clear of the Islamic thought and talking about...early man for example, why would have religion come or some rules be there....as man grew he learned more I guess realized we should have some sort of rules and "Might is right" rules should be ended etc etc....just a thought....

But the question arises saying that are Atheists immoral....I really don't know abt that.....I mean do atheist lie and say that's ok ?....No expert on atheism but Atheists dont believe in God and believe that everything has a logical explanation....

Wednesday, December 06, 2006

Insecurity - What is it...

Contributed by: Umar Pirzada on 16th Oct 2003 at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/thepointofview


Ever wondered why people are insecure...? What is insecurity anyways....?

My opinion is that insecurity is the feeling of being vulnerable and being easily being affected. This effect could be...emotional, physical,monetary etc etc. Being insecure is one of the most natural things for a normal human being. It happens when you put your trust in someone which is the most common case...it makes you vulnerable to that person....Putting your trust in someone means you tell him a secret which you wouldnt tell anyone else. You let him in your....monetary details....etc....that is when you are an open book for that person.

When do you trust someone? Its when you know absolutely sure....that this person can be trusted and then....You would bring him/her more closer than the normal people around you...What if that person shatters your trust by betraying you...trust me its the simplest thing for someone to do...we humans are...made this way....the teeny weeniest of things can make you be completely different person....and cause hurt to people and also shattering people's trust.....and sometimes not even realizing that it is as easy as that...some times shooting a bullet through that person's head would be acceptable for the person rather than....shattering his trust....and when that trust is broken you make the person feel insecure and thats what insecurity is all about...

Some ppl are insecure about their wealth...some people about their kids....there are different types of insecurities.....but the best way from saving yourself from this insecurity is.....firstly keep to yourself most of the time....that is the easiest way ....but that would work only for a little while and later on you will come with situations where....being human beings and social animals trust has to be found and conveyed too....

So realistically speaking we are MADE insecure by Allah...This aspect of insecurity must have been created by Allah in us to make the TEST of LIFE more interesting and more TESTY so to say...What a CREATOR...!!!

Friday, December 01, 2006

Knowing The Ways of God

Contributed by: Shamsuddin Rattani on 11th Nov 2003 at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/thepointofview


Sometimes, what’s important to us isn’t that important to God; and what’s important to God isn’t that important to us.

For example, what may be important for us is to receive God’s blessings. That might not be as important to God as we may think. What may be important to God is that we learn His ways. That might not be as important to us as God would want it to be.

Today, we’d like to look at the importance of learning God’s ways.

- What are God’s ways?
- Why is it so important to learn God’s ways?

God’s ways are related to God’s will, but they’re a little different. God’s will is what He wants to accomplish. God’s ways are how He accomplishes it.

It’s not enough for us to just know what God wants—His will; we also need to know how God does it—His ways.

We are going to look at just one aspect of God’s ways, but it’s the most important aspect for us to know: how God deals with us. This aspect of God’s ways are the disciplines He uses to change our hearts. Only God knows the thoughts and intentions of our hearts, and only He knows how to change our hearts.

God’s disciplines, His ways, are naturally mysterious to us—ROM 11:33 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments [disciplines] and unfathomable His ways!. That’s why we sometimes struggle in His dealings with us, because we don’t fully understand. We need to recognize that our obedience is only according to our understanding, but God’s discipline is according to His understandin.

Even though we don’t always understand what He is doing, we need to trust in Him that His ways with us are always right—DEU 32:4 The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness and without injustice, Righteous and upright is He. We don’t have to fully understand God in order to trust in Him. In fact if we only trust in Him when we understand Him, we’re only revealing our stubborn self-sufficiency—PRO 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. The greatest proof of our faith in God is to trust in Him in the midst of trials that we don’t understand. He knows us better than we do, and He knows what He is doing in our lives.

As we learn to trust in God and His dealings with us, we begin to learn His ways with us, how He disciplines us. Understanding comes after obedience and submission, not before. We want to understand before we obey and submit, but God’s order is: “Obey, then you’ll understand.” Example of Job—Satan said, “Does Job fear God for nothing?” [“Look at all the blessings You’ve given him! Remove those blessings, and he’ll curse You!”]

It makes life easier for us—PRO 13:15 Good understanding [of God’s way] produces favor, but the way of the treacherous is hard. If we don’t understand God’s ways with us, His discipline; then it becomes hard and grievous to us. God’s ways can become unbearable if we don’t understand them (Joseph). Notice that verse doesn’t say “blessings”, it says “favor”—blessings are an expression of God’s goodness, favor means that He is pleased with us

Learning God’s ways enables us to make life easier for others, also---—PSA 66:16 Come {and} hear, all who fear God, And I will tell of what He has done for my soul. It doesn’t say, ”And I will tell of all the blessings He has given me.” It says, “And I will tell of what He has done for my soul” [how He has changed it for the better.] If we are learning God’s ways with us, then we can help others learn God’s ways with them. We can encourage them in the midst of their trials and testings.

Moses was able to lead Israel through the desert because He had already spent 40 years there. He knew the way through the desert by personal experience. God wants us to be able to lead others in the way of the desert.

We said in the beginning that while blessings may seem very important to us, that may not be so important to God

What is important to God is that we learn His ways. In the desert, Israel had received many blessings, but in general, they never learned God’s ways—PSA 95:8-11. Moses, on the other hand, had learned God’s ways—PSA 103:7 He made known His ways to Moses, His acts to the sons of Israel.

Anybody can receive God’s blessings: that is no indication that we’re right with God. God’s blessings are not a statement about us, they’re a statement about Him. Blessings don’t prove we’re good, they prove God is good.

One true indication that we’re right with God is that we’re learning His ways: how He disciplines us. We’re able to respond to His discipline in a better way, not a bitter way. We’re also able to help others respond to God’s discipline positively

How do you respond to God’s discipline? That’s the true measure of seeing if you’re right with God, and responding well brings His favor.